Hi, I'm Gretchen Rivas with Relax To The Max Massage Therapy and today we're going to talk about how to work around varicose veins and the proper procedures for working around those in massage. When you're working with somebody who has varicose veins, the first thing you want to do is look at their leg before they lay down on the table and see if they actually have a varicose vein. Many times have spider veins, they're just a little tiny fine lines and those aren't really varicose veins. Varicose veins is when the valve inside the vein has started to collapse and the blood is pulling in the vein and it can't get back up to vein as easily as it should. There are different levels of severity with the varicosities so you can have mild and with that, you just use a nice, a light massage technique if the varicosity is mild. If it's moderate and you can see a bulging a little bit to it, you don't want to rub right on it, you can rub around it a little bit and if somebody has a severe varicosity where it's really bulging out and you can just see the bluishness and the purple color in the leg, you don't want to really work on that at all. Just feather like touch on that area, anything to support the massage and the blood flow towards the heart would help with anybody that had varicosities. So that's how you want to work around varicosities in the legs with massage.